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CITY OF ST. CLOUD

DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES

 

DATE OF MEETING:      September 18, 2003

 

LOCATION:                   Municipal Services Complex 1st Floor Conference Room

                                    2901 17th Street, St. Cloud

 

CALL TO ORDER:         2:00 P.M.

 

CHAIRMAN:                  David Nearing, Planning/Zoning Director

 

SECRETARY:               Marty Hobbs, Development Officer

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:

Dave Nearing                 Rick Mauro                    Eric Holloway                Danny White    

Bill Johnston                  John Groenendaal          Ron Trowell                   Angelo Perri                 

Major Faucett                Tommy Howes               Todd Swingle

 

NEW BUSINESS:

 

1.         Case #3-4.19 – St. Cloud Reunion Weekend 1003

                                                New York Ave; 10th to 12th Street

                                                Special Event

 

Mr. David Lane and Ms. Lisa Jones were present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Temporary electrical wiring shall comply with the National Electrical Code (NEC) 1999 Article 305. Note: Temporary wiring shall be ground-fault protected. Multi-conductor cord shall originate in an approved power outlet or panelboard and be of the type identified in Table 400-4 for hard usage or extra hard usage. Receptacles shall be the grounding type. Lamps shall be protected from accidental contact or breakage. Electrical cords shall be protected from damage and shall be placed so as to prevent trip hazards. When receptacles are installed on flexible cords/cables and exposed to weather or in wet locations, they shall be in a weatherproof enclosure.

2.         If tents over 300 sq. ft. are used they shall comply with the Florida Building Code (FBC) 2001 Section 3103.1 and Section 1019.5. Certification of flame resistance shall be filed with the building department prior to a permit being issued.

3.         Tent exits, aisles, seating, etc. shall conform to assembly occupancy. All exits shall be kept free of obstructions while tent is occupied by the public.    

 

Mr. Lane noted that he understood the comments from the Building Department and would make sure all of the requirements were met.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         All fire protection equipment; building exits and other safety features shall remain accessible.

2.         A lane shall remain open to allow emergency vehicles access if needed. (Movable barricades are acceptable.

3.                   12th street between New York and Massachusetts must remain open.

 

 

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Mr. Lane noted that there would be nothing located on 12th Street and that everything with the exception of one booth would be located against the curb on New York Avenue.

 

INFORMATION:

4.         Contact David Ennis for light trailer. 407-891-6784

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         For temp electric service if required please contact OUC Customer Service at 2903 17th Street St. Cloud (407) 957-7373.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Map does not indicate where streets will be barricaded. D.O.T. approved barricades with yellow warning lights are required. Please make sure there is an appropriate quantity to barricade streets completely from traffic attempting to pass through.

2.                   Itinerary of events and times is required for allocation of Police Officers for security, and so officers can answer questions event patrons may ask.

3.                   How is beer area being contained to event area? Is there a “beer garden” type area?

4.                   Council resolution is required for exception to alcohol consumption/city property ordinance.

5.                   Please make sure bands comply with city noise ordinance.

6.                   Have downtown merchants been notified of event? i.e. limitations to their business parking, sale of alcoholic beverages, and other matters that have been complained of previously?

 

Mr. Lane noted that he had met with Maj. Faucett and was trying to get everything addressed as soon as possible.  He explained that he had provided the staff with a map, that DOT approved barricades were being utilized, and that the beer garden had been shown on the layout.  He noted that the merchants had not been contacted individually as yet but he had discussed the matter at the Downtown Business Group meeting.  He also noted that the Chamber had obtained approval for the alcoholic beverage sales and that he would be providing staff with the required insurance binder and hold harmless letter.

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   An insurance binder, in the amount of $1,000,000, naming the City of St. Cloud as an insured party must be submitted to the Human Resources Risk Management division a minimum of ten days prior to the event.

2.                   The sale, service, and consumption of alcohol on City/Public property must be approved by way of Resolution by the City Council.  Please provide Human Resources Risk Management with verification of that action a minimum of ten days prior to the event.

3.                   The applicant shall be responsible for verifying that all food vendors are properly inspected and licensed.

4.                   Please provide the Planning Department with a list of activities including a time schedule as soon as possible.

5.                   A minimum 44” clear isle must be maintained on all sidewalks and all handicap curb cuts must remain open to provide handicap access.

 

Mr. Lane noted that the handicap curb cut would be closed for a short period of time because of the boats that would be located in front of the photography studio.

 

INFORMATION:

6.         The existing “Noise Ordinance” prohibits excessive noise after 11:00 p.m.  Please be mindful of the time and noise involved with the take-down of equipment.

7.         This approval is for the St. Cloud Reunion Weekend 2000 events taking place on New York Avenue between 10th and 12th Streets only.  While there is an indication on the map that there will be a “Fish Weigh In” and an arrow coming from an unknown location (presumably the Lakefront) to a site on New York Avenue, no specifics have been provided that would allow approval of any special event taking place at the Lakefront or on the route to the event site.

 

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8.         As a DRC approved event, off-site signage may be used to advertise or direct traffic to the event.  All signage must be free standing and must not be attached to street signs, utility poles, trees, etc.  All signs must be placed so as to prevent visual hazards to vehicular and pedestrian traffic and may be displayed between the dates of October 11 – 19, 2003.

 

PARKS & RECREATION

CONDITIONS:

1.                   I need a representative on site by 7:30am on October 17th, 2003

2.                   Will the road be blocked off for our set up for the Stage? Will the road be blocked off all weekend or would we have to bring the stage back Saturday night?

 

Mr. Lane noted that the road would be blocked off.

 

3.                   How many tents & location? These tents can only be set up on a grass or dirt area.

 

Mr. Lane noted that there would be no City tents used and that they would most likely be borrowing tents from Main Street.

 

4.                   How many tables & chairs and the location for drop off?

 

Mr. Lane noted that he did not have an accurate count as yet but he hoped to have the numbers within a week along with a request for the installation of the white fencing.

 

5.                   Location of white fencing?

6.                   How many trash cans & location for drop off?

7.                   Sound system? How long do you need my sound system person and what days?

 

Mr. Lane noted that the sound system would only be needed on Saturday from 11 a.m. until 11 p.m.

 

8.                   I would like to meet with the representative on site one week prior to the event, October 10th, 2003.

 

Mr. Lane noted that he would meet with Mr. Howse at the site on a date and time of his choosing.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

INFORMATION:

1.         The District has no comment.

 

Mr. Nearing and Mr. Johnston both expressed concern regarding boats coming through on 12th Street.  There is a concern that any vehicles parked along the route will be blocked in.  Mr. Nearing suggested using temporary “No Parking” signs and the issue was discussed briefly.

 

Mr. Johnston asked how many boats would be staging in the area and Mr. Lane noted that there would be at least twenty.

 

Mr. Lane noted that there would be two people located at 11th Street, the alleyway, and 12th Street to control the flow of boats entering the alley.  He also noted that he thought the idea of using the temporary “No Parking” signs would help.

 

Traffic flow was discussed briefly.

 

Mr. Johnston noted that the Chamber would need to make sure that the Fire Department had eastbound access on 12th Street.

 

FINDING:

The DRC approved the St. Cloud Reunion Weekend Special Event with the conditions stated.


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2.         Case #3-115.01 – Public Bank of St. Cloud (Addition)

                                                2500 13th Street

                                                Site Plan

 

Mr. John Moody and Mr. Charlie Anderson were present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         At least one accessible route (special emphasis crosswalk) shall be provided from public transportation stops, public streets or sidewalks to the accessible building entrance per section 11-4.3.2 (1) of the Florida Building Code 2001

 

This issue was briefly discussed between Mr. Moody and Mr. Trowell.  No outcome was verbalized for inclusion in these minutes.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.                   What is the purpose for the additional drive-thru area adjacent to the building addition?

 

Mr. Anderson noted that the drive-thru is existing and that the only change was the addition of a drive-through ATM.

 

2.         Applicant may want to consider addressing the traffic congestion along Tennessee Ave.  It seems this design is only going to make greater congestion in an already congested area.

 

Mr. White noted that Mr. Luthie had concern regarding traffic issues.

 

Mr. Moody noted that they were not anticipating any additional traffic at the site.

 

CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.                   A Certificate of Capacity approved by City Council shall be required prior to receiving a Notice to Proceed.

2.                   A Sewer Capacity Reservation Fee in the amount of $396.00 shall be paid prior to issuance of a Notice to Proceed, per Resolution 98-27R.  The Sewer Capacity Reservation Fee shall be credited towards the sewer impact fee at the time of building permit.  The balance of all impact and tap fees shall be at the rate in effect at the time of building permit.

 

Mr. Moody noted that he thought this was inside the City and exempt from having to have a Certificate of Capacity.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that Commercial uses were not exempt.  Only the single family residences in the grid had vested rights.

 

Mr. Moody noted that he would get the Concurrency Management application submitted right away.

 

The number of restrooms planned for the project was briefly discussed with Mr. Anderson noting that the plan was to take out one existing bathroom and add 2 new bathrooms.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that the applicant would need to make an appointment with Mr. Groenendaal to do a walk-through for credits.

 

Mr. Trowell noted that he had architectural plans that had been submitted to the Building Department for permitting purposes.

 

RECOMMENDATIONS:

3.                   Staff recommends approval with the above conditions.

 

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INFORMATION:

4.                   The Sewer Capacity Reservation Fee equal 10% of the estimated sanitary sewer impact fee.  For the commercial development, this is:  3,600 s.f of building x $1,100 ÷ 1,000 = $3,960.00 x 10% = $396.00 due at the Certificate of Capacity.  Per Resolution 98-27R.

5.                   A list of all impact fees is available from the Planning & Zoning Department upon request.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Show existing hydrants on site plans.

2.                   Show location of proposed FDC connection.

 

Mr. Moody noted that there would most likely be a fire protection system installed so he could not provide and answer at this time.  He noted that he would make sure the information was included on revised plans.

 

Location of the mains was briefly discussed.

 

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

2.         Further conditions and recommendations will be addressed during the construction process.

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Last 3 pages of plans are not signed or sealed

2.                   The front parking lot will need to be re-striped to correct the following:

a.                   Parking is to be 10’ wide and 20 deep

b.                   Handicap spaces need to be at least 12’ wide with a  5’access aisle

c.                   Need landscape island buffer every 10 parking spaces – 3 additional islands will be required in the front parking lot.

 

Mr. Moody asked if the project had to be brought up to current code.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that it did.  He explained that the size was adequate but anything not meeting code needed to be addressed.

 

Mr. Anderson noted that he did not want to install the islands.

 

3.                   Re examine the proposed driveway for the drive-up ATM.

a.                   The driveway appears to impact with a 12 “ DBH Tree that can be saved

b.                   The curb cut on Tennessee Avenue is excessive. Reduce it down to possibly 24 feet and than bring the ATM drive thru further north and separated from the curb cut.

4.                   Include yield sign where rear parking lot and drive-thru teller exits meet.

5.                   Install do not enter signs where needed.

INFORMATION:

6.                   Revised plans must be submitted within sixty (60) days of this review.  Revised plans submitted after the allotted time frame will require a new application including payment of additional fees.

7.                   All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

 

The existing tree to be removed was discussed.

 

Mr. White noted that a dumpster enclosure needed to be shown for the site.

 

 

 

 

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OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

CONDITIONS:

1.         The power pole at the proposed exit is a switch pole that brings electric from overhead to underground if the pole needs to be relocated there will be costs to relocate pole.  I think the pole may be a conflict.

 

Mr. Moody noted that he would meet with Mr. Perri to discuss relocation of the pole.

 

PARKS & RECREATION

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Please revise the submit tree survey. Some existing trees that meet the Land Development Code are not shown on the plan. This site has had revisions of tree removal in the past; therefore, the new plans will constituent maintenance.

2.                   The St. Cloud Parks & Recreation Department agrees with the removal of the proposed Live Oak (Quercus virginiana); however, replacements shall be identified upon the plan.

  • Show replacements as ornamental, due to proposed location.
  • Note that an existing Crape Myrtle (Lagerstroemia indica) tree exists within the proposed area.
  • Show size of ornamentals within a plant/tree legend.

3.                   Please show the existing buffer plantings on the Landscaping Plan.

 

Using a set of plans and indicating “this, that, here and there” was used to discuss plans for removal and plantings.  Nothing was verbalized for inclusion in these minutes.

 

4.                   In accordance with Article VIII, Section 8.8.7.2 Required landscaping adjacent to public rights-of-way. Please show the revisions on the Landscaping Plan.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

5.                   To remove and replace the Oak trees, that have received severe pruning, located under existing utility lines.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No Comments

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

INFORMATION:

1.         This case will require review by the City Engineering Department only.

 

FINDING:

The applicant will resubmit revised plans within sixty days of this review.  The resubmittal will be for the purpose of sign-off only.

 

 

 


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3.         Case #3-106.02 – Rental World of St. Cloud

                                                13th Street and Grape Avenue

                                                Water/Sewer Construction Plans

 

Mr. John Moody was present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         This case has no effect on the building department.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.                   A minimum size 8” water main is required. Change the size of water main from 6” to 8”.

2.                   Change the type of manhole from the dog house shown to a standard type manhole with boots and indicate two hard couplings for connection to manhole.

3.                   The sanitary sewer main is required to be extended with minimal slope across the frontage along Grape Ave. for future extension.

4.                   Provide sanitary sewer profiles.

5.                   On sheet no. 3 of 10, change the as-built notes to “ 2 sets required” and change the tracer wire to a “ 12 gauge”.

6.                   Water and sewer D.E.P. permits are required.

7.                   Provide a 15’ easement along the frontages of Grape Ave. and Hwy 192.

 

Mr. Moody noted that his client would provide the necessary easement.  He asked if the City of St. Cloud would be willing to share in the costs.

 

Mr. Nearing recommended that Mr. Moody discuss the matter with Mr. Swingle in Public Works.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.                   Fire hydrants in commercial, industrial, and high-density residential areas shall be spaced no greater than three hundred fifty (350) feet apart and shall be connected to mains no less than eight (8) inches in diameter.  In addition, hydrants shall be located so that the radius of one hundred seventy five (175) feet from the hydrant shall strike a portion of the structure, as well as strike the same radius of the next hydrant on the property. The required distance between all hydrants shall be measured along the road right-of-way and shall not be measured across private property not designated and used as a road right-of-way. No individual hydrant shall be designed to deliver more than 1000 GPM of required fire flow.  (L.D.C. 7.9.2.b.1)

2.                   The Fire Rescue Department recommends annexation before construction to receive an ISO rating of 2. 

INFORMATION:

3.         Since this project is not in the city limits, it will not receive fire rescue services from the St. Cloud Fire Rescue Department.  Therefore, approval of this case will not have a significant affect on fire rescue department operations.

 

The location for the fire hydrants was briefly discussed.

 

Mr. Nearing asked when the owner wanted to annex the property.

 

Mr. Moody noted that he did not have an answer right now but he would get with his client and report back to Mr. Nearing.

 

Mr. Johnston asked if one hydrant was going to be enough.

 

Mr. Moody explained that, as a County project, he had the site per their requirements.

 

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OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

CONDITIONS:

1.                   If the electric is underground the owner will install al the primary conduit and the concrete transformer pad.  The secondary conduit, wire, and terminations is the responsibility of the owner.  The secondary also applies if the transformer is on the pole and is underground from the pole.

2.                   A utility easement will be required once the location of the transformer and primary run is determined.

3.                   If the secondary electric is overhead OUC will install the secondary wire and pole to the overhead mast.

4.                   There may be costs to provide electric service to this project.  Please contact Bill Ellwood.

5.                   OUC can provide parking lot lights for this project.  Please contact Bill Ellwood.

            OUC Development Services                    (407) 236-9652 – Fax (407) 236-9628

500 South Orange Avenue                      email: developmentservices@ouc.com

P.O. Box 3193

Orlando, FL  32802

6.                   Once all information is obtained by Development Services and Engineer will be assigned to the job.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

7.                   No Comments

 

PARKS & RECREATION

INFORMATION:

2.                   The Conceptual Landscaping Plan submitted follows the guidelines of Osceola County. At this time, the St. Cloud Parks & Recreation Department is unclear of annexation possibilities. If this site is annexed into the City of St. Cloud, the final Landscaping Plan shall be in accordance with the Land Development Code, Article VIII.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

INFORMATION:

1.                   This case will require review by the City Engineering Department only.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval of the construction plans with the conditions as stated.  The applicant will resubmit revised plans within sixty days of this review.  The resubmittal will be for the purpose of sign-off only.
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4.         Case #3-117.01 – Brown & Johnston Surveying

1201 Vermont Avenue

Concept Plan

 

Mr. Jeremy Camp and Mr. Bob Johnston were present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         No additional comments at this time.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.                   An FDOT Drainage Connection Permit may be required due to the location of the discharge point of the storm water system.

 

Mr. Camp noted that he had sent a copy of the permit to Mr. Luthie.

 

3.                   Please indicate the side slope of the storm water retention pond.

 

Mr. Camp noted that the slope would be 2:1 and he would make sure it was shown on the plan.

 

3.         The plan indicates six parking spaces are provided, however, we could only count five spaces on the site plan.

 

Mr. Camp noted that the carport was existing and was being counted as one of the spaces.

 

CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The change of use will trigger transportation impacts fees, public safety impact fees, no water or sewer impact fees will be required unless added fixtures are proposed.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Normal concurrency comments will be provided at the formal site plan review.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         After initial review of the limited information inherent with a concept plan, nothing appears as if it would cause an adverse affect on fire department operations.  Since items addressing fire protection generally are not shown on concept plans, the fire rescue department will further review the project at the time of site plan submittal.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

CONDITIONS:

1.         If the electric service is upgraded please supply electric info to OUC 2903 17th Street St. Cloud, FL  34769 Attention: Angelo Perri.  OUC will upgrade its service cable as needed at no cost to the owner.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No Comments

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Close eastern exit the large oak should be saved.

 

 


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Mr. Camp noted that he had spoken to Ms. Duffy and she had determined that the tree needed to be removed.  He noted that the applicant would like to have the eastern exit because he needed to be able to back out in either direction.

 

Parking for the site was briefly discussed and ingress/egress for the site was briefly discussed.

 

Mr. Camp noted that he thought it would be better to leave at 20’ with the length of trucks that have to be backed out since the tree was no longer an issue.

 

Mr. Nearing asked what the mitigation was for the tree and Mr. Holloway noted that it was 2:1.

 

The alleyway adjacent to the site was briefly discussed with Mr. White noting that he thought it had been taken off the open travelway listing located in the LDC.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that he would have someone check for an LDC amendment removing that block.

 

2.                   Indicate the plans for the carport, more parking or being enclosed.

3.                   Need to get a site variance for the landscape buffer, the drive aisle width.

4.                   The alleyway cannot be used for drainage.

5.                   Provide a elevation of the ramp, it appears to rise gradually then must drop dramatically to grade at the Vermont ROW

 

Mr. Camp explained that the existing steps were to be removed.

 

RECOMMENDATIONS:

6.         The site will need some addition work for the parking and variances to help with this conversion; Planning will support the applicant’s variance provide the redesign addresses the tree, the retention on site and any outstanding comments.

INFORMATION:

7.         All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

PARKS & RECREATION

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Submit a landscaping plan.

·         Show required buffer widths and plantings within each buffer; and,

·         Show mitigation for removed tree; and,

·         Show description of plants/trees proposed; and,

·         Show source of irrigation.

2.         Note: After the reviewing of the Landscaping Plan, additional comments may be submitted.

 

Mr. Camp noted that he was aware of the need for a landscape variance and that he had already spoken with Ms. Duffy.

 

The uses adjacent to the site were briefly discussed.

 

Relocation of the sidewalk, since the tree didn’t need to be saved, was briefly discussed.

 

Mr. Camp noted that he was in agreement with all of the comments from Parks & Recreation.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

INFORMATION:

1.                   This case will require review by the City Engineering Department only.

 

Impact fee credits were briefly discussed.

 

FINDING:

There is no DRC action required for Concept Plans.  No formal DRC action was taken regarding this case.

 

ADJOURNMENT:           3:00 p.m.