View Other Items in this Archive | View All Archives | Printable Version

 

CITY OF ST. CLOUD

DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES

 

DATE OF MEETING:      December 31, 2003

 

LOCATION:                   Municipal Services Complex 1st Floor Conference Room

                                    2901 17th Street, St. Cloud

 

CALL TO ORDER:         2:00 P.M.

 

CHAIRMAN:                  David Nearing, Planning/Zoning Director

 

SECRETARY:               Marty Hobbs, Development Officer

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:

Dave Nearing                 Rick Mauro                    Mark Luthie                   Major Faucett

John Groenendaal          Tom Hurt                       Angelo Perri                  Veronica Witol

 

NEW BUSINESS:

 

1.         Case # 03-117.03 – Brown & Johnston Surveying

                                                1201 Vermont Avenue

                                                Site Plan Variance

 

Mr. Rick Brown was present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         This case has no effect on the building department.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

INFORMATION:

1.         This case will require approval by the City’s Engineering Department only.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval.  This case will be forwarded to the City Council for public hearing.

 


Page 2, DRC Minutes – 12/31/03

 

 

2.         Case # 04-30.01 – Town Center Villas

                                                NE Corner of Brown Chapel Rd & 5th Street

                                                Preliminary Subdivision

 

Mr. Skip Holtkamp was present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         This case has no effect on the building department.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         Please submit a preliminary plat of the proposed subdivision as soon as possible.  We will reserve the         right to make additional comments pertaining to the construction plans after receipt of the preliminary       plat.

2.         Sheet 3 of 17:

            a.)        Please provide a pedestrian crossing at the sidewalk crossing of the street south of the                               entrance way. 

            b.)        Osceola County has jurisdiction of 5th St. Additional right-of-way along 5th St. will     need to be                     determined by Osceola County.

 

Mr. Holtkamp noted that he was aware of what the County wanted and he would reflect that on the plans.

 

The jurisdiction of 5th Street was discussed.

 

Mr. Holtkamp explained that he wanted this submittal to be considered both preliminary and final.  He noted that he would be submitting a typical of the buildings with the corrected plans for sign-off.

 

            c.)        The proposed driveway at Brown Chapel Rd. and confirmation that an additional 5-foot of right-                     of-way is sufficient must be determined by Osceola County.

            d.)        It appears by the lack of dumpsters that it is the intent of the developer that individual pick-up at                   each town home is the desired garbage collection method.  If this is the case then the turn                      around point adjacent to Jacks Memorial Rd. will need to be designed to accommodate the                         turning movement of the Solid Waste collection vehicle.  If it is determined the turn around is                  adequate for Fire Department apparatus then we believe that it will also be satisfactory for the                Solid Waste collection vehicle.

3.         Sheet 4 of 17:

            a.)        Wheel stops will need to be provided at each parking space which does not enter the carport at                   each town home in order to provide some form of protection to the building.  The proposed                       parking stall depth of 18-feet does not meet the minimum requirement of the Land Development                         Code.  Since a variance request has been made to alter the driving lanes to 11-feet (i.e., 22-feet                    travel way) we do not support a reduction in the parking stall depth due to the fact the backing                         will be reduced if the variance is approved.

 

Mr. White noted that Mr. Luthie wanted two feet (2’) added to the parking spaces.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that he thought it would be better to have the eighteen foot stalls with a twenty four foot travelway.

 

Mr. White asked if that would require a variance and Mr. Nearing noted it would.

 

Mr. Holtkamp explained the separation of the units and the landscaping features planned for the front and rear of the units.

 

Mr. Nearing asked if there were to be any partitions between the yards in the rear and Mr. Holtkamp noted that there were no partitions planned.  He explained that they would each have separate screened section and that he would be submitting elevations to show that when the revised plans were resubmitted.

 

Page 3, DRC Minutes – 12/31/03

 

 

Mr. Nearing recommended that the applicant consider offsetting the units to add depth and approve the appearance of the development.

 

Mr. Holtkamp noted that he would discuss the recommendation with his client.

 

            b.)        A SFWMD Permit will be required prior to issuance of the “Notice to Proceed”.

            c.)        The proposed stormwater pipe between structure S-2 and S-4 is approximately 10-feet deep.                       We do not recommend the buildings be spaced at 10-foot horizontal separation due to the depth                        of the storm pipe.  We recommend a minimum separation of 20-feet between the buildings or a                       reduction in depth of the storm pipe to 5-feet.  Likewise the horizontal separation for the storm                 pipe between structure S-3 and S-4 which is approximately 10-feet vertical depth should be a                 minimum 20-feet from the rear of the buildings.

            d.)        Please provide a typical cross section for the proposed paving. 

 

CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.                   The concurrency management application fee is outstanding please provide the fee of 180.00.

2.                   A Certificate of Capacity approved by City Council shall be required prior to receiving a Notice to Proceed. The Certificate may be broken into the two phases.

3.                   A Sewer Capacity Reservation Fee in the amount of $6,130.80 shall be paid prior to issuance of a Notice to Proceed, per Resolution 98-27R.  The Sewer Capacity Reservation Fee shall be credited towards the sewer impact fee at the time of building permit.  The balance of all impact and tap fees shall be at the rate in effect at the time of building permit.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

4.                   Staff recommends approval with the above conditions.

INFORMATION:

5.                   The Sewer Capacity Reservation Fee equal 10% of the estimated sanitary sewer impact fee.  For a multiple family development, this is:  26 dwelling units x $2,358 = $61,308 x 10% = $6,130.80 due at the Certificate of Capacity.  Per Resolution 98-27R.

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.                   A Department of Environmental Protection General Permit will be required for the water and an Individual Permit for the sanitary sewer systems. The current version is available on the City of St. Cloud web site.

2.                   A hydraulic analysis report is required for the water systems and the sanitary sewer lift station.

3.                   The sanitary sewer system and lift station will remain privately owned.

4.                   Show the 10” water main along Jacks Memorial Rd. as existing and remove the note “Exist. 10” W.M. & cap”.

5.                   Add note at tie-in manhole on 5th St., “Contractor to core manhole and replace existing epoxy lining to match Raven 405 Ultra High Build material”.

6.                   Six inch sanitary sewer laterals with 4” double wyes are acceptable for this application. Include a note on sheet no. 5 and a typical detail on sheet no. 11.

7.                   A profile is required of all water, sewer and storm crossings.

8.                   Identify the size and location of the irrigation service on sheet no. 5 with the comment, “service tap provided by City”.

INFORMATION:

9.         It is my understanding that the D.E.P. will not be allowing sanitary sewer force mains smaller than 4” in size. You may want to look into this before submitting final plans.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         Due to fire flow requirements an additional hydrant will be needed at the west entrance of the southern drive. The hydrant shown on the plans for the southern section may be moved approx. 100’ east.

2.                   This project includes an approximately 12000-sq. ft. building. The estimated fire flow for this building is 1700 GPM.  In accordance with 7.9.2.2 of the Land Development Code, water distribution systems and/or main extensions shall be designed and constructed in accordance with the fire protection requirements of the Insurance Services Office, as stated in their publication “Guide for Determination of

 

Page 4, DRC Minutes – 12/31/03

 

 

Required Fire Flows”.  Proof of adequate fire flow must be submitted to the public works department for verification prior to site plan approval by the fire rescue department.

 

Mr. Holtkamp requested recent flow information from testing in the area.

 

3.         The proposed t-type turn- around needs to be a minimum of 40’ from the center in each direction.

 

Alternatives for the proposed layout were discussed with Mr. Nearing noting that he had some concerns regarding trash trucks being able to make the turn.

 

Mr. Holtkamp noted that he thought the City had some smaller trucks to use in areas with tight turns like this.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that the issue would need to be discussed with Mr. Luthie.  He also noted that if the fire trucks weren’t going to have a problem with the turns then the trash trucks wouldn’t either.

 

Mr. Holtkamp proposed utilizing an eighty foot “T” with stabilization back to Jacks Memorial for emergency access rather than the larger “T”.  The issue was then discussed at length.

 

Mr. Holtkamp explained that was why there was no dumpster pad provided.  He noted that the intention was to have curbside pick up with the smaller trucks.  He further noted that if that wasn’t going to be a possibility, he would need to reconsider that plan.

 

Mr. White addressed the issue of the sidewalk along 5th Street asking if there was to be a pedestrian easement recorded since it was located on private property.

 

Mr. Holtkamp noted that it could be handled either way since the units were to be sold fee simple and all other areas were to be considered common.

 

Mr. White asked if it would be public or private.

 

Mr. Nearing recommended that the developer contact an attorney to discuss the best way to handle the sidewalk issue.  He noted that there could be some liability issues involved.

 

4.         All gates shall be located a minimum of 30’ (thirty feet) from the public right of way and shall not open outward.  NFPA 299 5-2.9

5.         All gates shall have an access control device approved by the Fire Rescue Department. (NFPA 1 3-6)

6.         Before and during construction, when combustibles are brought onto the site in such quantities as deemed hazardous by the fire official, paved roads to provide access for fire vehicles and a suitable water supply for fire protection acceptable to the fire department shall be provided and maintained.  (L.D.C. 6.1.21.3)

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

CONDITIONS:

1.         The owner will install all the primary and secondary conduit, concrete transformer pads and secondary pullboxes.

2.         A utility easement will be required once the location of the transformer and primary run is determined.

3.         All the secondary wire and terminations are the responsibility of the owner.

4.         There may be costs to provide electric service to this project, please contact Development Services.

5.         OUC can provide parking lot lights for this project.  Please contact Development Services.

6.         Please send all site and electric information to OUC Development Services.

            OUC Development Service                      (407) 236-9652 – FAX (407) 236-9628

            500 South Orange Avenue                      Email: developmentservices@ouc.com

            P.O. Box 3193

            Orlando, FL  32802

7.         Once all the information is obtained by Development Services and Engineer will be assigned to the job.

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS/Questions:

1.         Provide a map with the surrounding zoning and Future Land Use Designation in all directions and across ROWs. The setbacks to different land uses are outlined in Section3.9.4.

2.                   The interior road way will require the site variance request be granted.

3.                   The parking depth reduction should be added. Staff will consider the reduction for the southern row of townhomes for the tree preservation. 

4.                   Provide an elevation and floor plan for the units. What private use space is attached to each unit.

5.                   Provide how the buffer yards and barriers required by 8.7.3. Wall variances may be required and supported where larger passive buffer has been provided.

6.                   Is this project phased?

7.                   The sign needs to meet a 5 foot setback

8.                   Show the Bishop Grady curb cut across Brown Chapel

9.                   Parking spaces will be assigned with visitor spaces assigned will those be deeded to prevent vehicles in garages from being parked in.

10.               Should the FFE be 16 inches above the crown of the road/drive way.

 

Mr. Holtkamp noted that the plan was for the streets to be private with inverted crowns.

 

Mr. White noted that the area was not within the 100 year flood zone and as long as the streets were private it would not matter.

 

Mr. Groenendaal asked if there had been a Landscape Architect looking at the project yet.

 

Mr. Holtkamp explained that there had and that the plan was to build a solid masonry wall along Brown Chapel Road and utilization of the dense vegetative buffer along 5th Street.

 

Mr. Groenendaal noted that he could support that but he would need a Landscape Architect to justify it and agree that it meets code.

 

The landscape buffers and possible variances were discussed.

 

Mr. Nearing explained that if a variance from a code found in Article III, it would require approval by the Board of Adjustments.

 

11.               Landscape plan was not reviewed because buffer yards were inadequate and thus landscape plan will be amended. You may want to check these items at the time of redesign.

a.       Check the parking buffer

b.       Excellent job preserving the existing trees on site however please prove a tree survey of trees 4 “dbh or greater in the bubbled area on survey if none exist then that survey will suffice.

c.       The 18” oak along the southeast portion of this property. Is it a specimen?

12.               Is the dumpster adequate for this development?

RECOMMENDATIONS:

13.               Variety in façades is strongly suggested, differing architectural features can give the community greater character 

INFORMATION:

14.               Revised plans must be submitted within sixty (60) days of this review.  Revised plans submitted after the allotted time frame will require a new application including payment of additional fees.

15.               All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         A South Florida Water Management District Permit is required for this project.

 

OSCEOLA COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY (911 ADDRESSING)

CONDITIONS:

1.         Prior to submitting final plan; applicant shall clear all proposed street names with the 9-1-1 Addressing Department.  Submit plans for review on street naming and numbering.

 

FINDING:

DRC recommended approval with conditions.  The applicant will pay for final construction plan approval at the time of correction submittal within 60 days of the review.

 

 

Page 6, DRC Minutes – 12/31/03

 

 

3.         Case # 04-30.01 – Town Center Villas

                                                NE Corner of Brown Chapel Rd & 5th Street

                                                Subdivision Variance

 

Mr. Skip Holtkamp was present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         This case has no effect on the building department.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         We will support the 22-foot wide travel way if it will minimize the impacts to the existing grandfather oaks.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that the variance would need to be amended to request the 18’ parking stalls.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The District has no comment regarding this case.

 

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval with conditions.  The application will be forwarded to the Planning Board and City Council for Public Hearings.

 


Page 7, DRC Minutes – 12/31/03

 

 

4.         Case # 04-29.01 – Holloway Project

                                                Commerce Center Drive

                                                Preliminary Subdivision

 

Mr. Lloyd Griffith, of Burkett Engineering, was present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         This case has no effect on the building department.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         We have reviewed the preliminary subdivision plan and based on the information provided we believe             that it conforms to the Land Development Code at this time.  However we reserve the right to make            additional comments upon receipt of more detailed engineering plans. 

2.         The storm water pond will need to be permitted by SFWMD and a permit received prior to issuance of          the “Notice to Proceed” for construction. 

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

9.                   Reclaimed water is available and will be required for irrigation.

10.               The City of St. Cloud manhole ID numbers are required on the plans for each sanitary sewer manhole structure.

11.               Construction and irrigation plans are required.

12.               A Department of Environmental Protection General Permit will be required for the water and sewer extensions. The current version is available on the City of St. Cloud web site.

13.               A hydraulic analysis report is required on the water and reclaimed water systems.

14.               Show the existing sanitary sewer main on the north side of Commerce Center Dr.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The entrance roadway shall be divided to the first intersection.

2.         Distance from or spacing for hydrants located within single family residential subdivisions shall not exceed five hundred (500) feet and shall be connected to water mains no less than eight (8) inches in diameter. The required distance between all hydrants shall be measured along the road right-of-way and shall not be measured across private property not designated and used as a road right-of-way. No individual hydrant shall be designed to deliver more than 1000 GPM of required fire flow. (L.D.C. 7.9.2.b.1)

3.         All gates shall be located a minimum of 30’ (thirty feet) from the public right of way and shall not open outward.  NFPA 299 5-2.9

4.         All gates shall have an access control device approved by the Fire Rescue Department. (NFPA 1 3-6)

5.         Before and during construction, when combustibles are brought onto the site in such quantities as deemed hazardous by the fire official, paved roads to provide access for fire vehicles and a suitable water supply for fire protection acceptable to the fire department shall be provided and maintained.  (L.D.C. 6.1.21.3)

RECOMMENDATIONS:

6.         Add hydrants at lots 24, 48 and 72, delete hydrants at lots 63 and 120.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

CONDITIONS:

1.         The owner will install all the primary conduit and concrete transformer pads.

2.         A utility easement will be required once the location of the transformer and primary run is determined.

3.         All the secondary wire and terminations are the responsibility of the owner.

4.         There may be costs to provide electric service to this project, please contact Development Services.

5.         OUC can provide parking lot lights for this project.  Please contact Development Services.

6.         Please send all site and electric information to OUC Development Services.

            OUC Development Service                      (407) 236-9652 – FAX (407) 236-9628

            500 South Orange Avenue                      Email: developmentservices@ouc.com

Page 8, DRC Minutes – 12/31/03

 

 

            P.O. Box 3193

            Orlando, FL  32802

7.         Once all the information is obtained by Development Services and Engineer will be assigned to the job.

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Please call out dimensions for setbacks, separation distances, and roadway widths.

2.                   Please redesign site to reflect a 35’ structure setback along the western property line of parcel 04-26-30-0011-0001-00A0 due to the I-1 (industrial zoning) of the adjacent parcel.  Additionally, the I-1 zoning extends a portion under this parcel please consult the Zoning map and change the setback along it to 35’, the remaining portion of this property line shall have a 25’ setback.

 

Mr. Griffith noted that he would comply with the setbacks as required.

 

3.                   Please redesign site to reflect a 25’ structure setback along the eastern property line of parcel 04-26-30-0011-0001-00A0 due to the R-4 (High Density Residential) of the adjacent parcel. 

 

Mr. Griffith noted that he would comply with the setbacks as required.

 

4.                   Please provide a crosswalk on Commerce Center Drive and pedestrian ramps on both sides of the road.

5.                   Please redesign site to include the correct number of parking spaces for 153 units – 306 parking spaces.  Please design each parking space to be a minimum of 8’x20’.  Note each unit A only has 1 garage parking space.

 

Mr. Griffith noted that the number of units would be reduced with the change in setbacks.

 

6.                   Please redesign site to allow 20’ depth parking space without encroaching into pedestrian or vehicular R-O-W’s.   

7.                   Please correct the number of units and the density listed on the Site Data.  It states 144 units, however 153 are shown.

8.                   Please submit floor plan and elevations and air conditioned and non air conditioned square footage of units A, B, and C.  Each unit must have a minimum of 900 sq. ft. of livable space.

9.                   Please provide fencing and landscaping around pool area.

10.               Please provide open space calculations.

11.               Please provide pervious calculations.

12.               Please submit boundary and tree survey.

13.               Please show all easements.

14.               Please show what type of outdoor privacy area will be provided.

15.               Please include in Deed Restrictions that no unit may convert the garage to living space.

16.               Please submit payment of remaining balance due - $165.00.

17.               Please submit letter of authorization allowing Burkett Engineering to act on property owner’s behalf.

18.               On landscaping plan, please correct buffer along the eastern property line of parcel 04-26-30-0011-0001-00A0  to a 25’ type A buffer.  Please include a wall unless a site plan variance is obtained.

 

Mr. Griffith asked if this was a requirement even if it is a similar type.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that the code required a wall but the applicant may request a variance to allow use of PVC screening or the pillar with panels that you see used in a lot of the newer subdivisions.

 

19.               City requires plans for irrigation; please show the water source for irrigation.

 

Mr. Griffith noted that he would comply with the reuse requirements.

 

20.               A site plan variance may be possible to reduce the number trees along the buffer to 1 tree per 40’ if the difference in number of trees is placed in the interior landscaping.

21.               Will storm water management areas be accessible for recreational purposes?  Will they be wet ponds?

 

Mr. Griffith noted that the pond would be wet and would be stocked.

Page 9, DRC Minutes – 12/31/03

 

 

INFORMATION:

22.               Fee simple documents and all Home Owner Association documents must be submitted and recorded with the approval of the final plat.

23.               Parcel 04-26-30-0011-0001-00A0 only requires a 25’ setback adjacent to the local roadway.

 

Mr. Griffith again noted that he would meet the requirement.

 

24.               Please note that both buffers along Commerce Center Drive require a 10’ Type C buffer.

25.               On landscaping plan, the buffer along the eastern property line of parcel 04-26-30-0011-0001-00B0 is adjacent to High Density Residential land use and therefore requires a 10’ wide type B buffer.

26.               Revised plans must be submitted within sixty (60) days of this review.  Revised plans submitted after the allotted time frame will require a new application including payment of additional fees.

27.               All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         A South Florida Water Management District Permit is required for this project.

 

OSCEOLA COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY (911 ADDRESSING)

CONDITIONS:

1.         Prior to submitting final plan; applicant shall clear all proposed street names with the 9-1-1 Addressing Department.  Submit plans for review on street naming and numbering.

 

Mr. Griffith noted that he had met with the Fire Department and thought he could accommodate their requirements.

 

Mr. Griffith noted that the owner is considering requesting a variance from the 40’ dedicated right-of-way requirement.  He further noted that he understood that Mr. Luthie was the key person regarding that issue and would be contacting him later for discussion.

 

Mr. Nearing noted that Mr. Luthie had been pretty adamant on the issue during the workshop discussions.

 

Parking for the project was again discussed.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval with conditions provided that no one absent from this meeting finds major problems with the revised plans.

 

5.         Case #4-29.02 – Holloway Project

                                                Commerce Center Drive

                                                Preliminary Subdivision Plan Variance

 

The applicant withdrew his request for a variance.

 

 

ADJOURNMENT:           The meeting was adjourned at 2:50 P.M.