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CITY OF ST. CLOUD

DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES

 

DATE OF MEETING:      October 21, 2004

 

LOCATION:                   1300 9th Street - 1st Floor – DRC Conference Room; St. Cloud

 

CALL TO ORDER:         2:00 P.M.

 

CHAIRMAN:                  David Nearing, Planning/Zoning Director

 

SECRETARY:               Marty Hobbs, Development Officer

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:

Dave Nearing                 Mark Luthie                   Dave Pierson                 Rick Mauro

John Groenendaal          Ron Trowell                   Angelo Perri                 

Veronica Witol               Sue Boblett                   Tommy Howes

 

NEW BUSINESS:

 

1.         Case # 04-3.26 – Monster Mash

                                                3001 17th Street (Civic Center)

                                                Special Event

 

Tracy Bailey was present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION: No Comments.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         All fire protection equipment; building exits and other safety features shall remain accessible.

2.         All seating arrangements and occupancy shall conform to The Florida Fire Prevention Code.

3.         Provide the Fire Rescue Department a copy of the floor plan for approval.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         None

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         Approved

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.         All food vendors must be properly licensed and inspected.

2.         The application indicates hour of the event from 8:00 p.m. through 1:00 a.m.  Please be advised that you must adhere to the requirements of the City’s Noise Ordinance which prohibits loud music after 11:00 p.m.

 

Ms. Bailey wanted to know if this requirement pertained to them if the band is inside?

Mr. Nearing indicated that it did not.

 

INFORMATION:

3.                   As a DRC approved Special Event, the applicant is authorized to utilize off-site signage beginning October 23, 2004 for the purpose of advertising or directing traffic to the event.  All signs must be placed so as to prevent visual obstruction by both vehicular and pedestrian traffic, must be free standing, and must be removed no later than October 31, 2004.

4.                   Resolution #2004-316R was approved by the City Council on September 23, 2004 thereby authorizing the sale/service and consumption of alcoholic beverages on City property.

RECOMMENDATION:

5.         The Dept. of Planning & Zoning strongly recommends earlier submittal for future events to allow the staff to insure we can accommodate your needs.

 

PARKS & RECREATION

CONDITIONS:

  1. No problems with what you are requesting.  Jenna’s staff will be setting up all the tables & chairs.  If any questions or changes call Jenna at 407-957-7149.

 

RISK MANAGEMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         Department to provide vendor/event holder with City of Saint Cloud Certificate Kit via email, fax or U.S. Mail.

Vendor must provide acceptable Certificates of Insurance via ACORD form or sign City Waiver documents, no later than 10 days prior to the event.  If the vendor does not carry Florida Worker’s Compensation insurance, an Exemption certificate must be attached  to submitted insurance certificates.

Requests for waivers or reductions of City requirements should be addressed to the Department Director who will make those determinations.

Certificates should be mailed or faxed to the Department contact.

           

 

FINDING:

 

The DRC recommended approval with conditions. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.         Case # 04-3.27 – Veterans Day Parade

                                                Lakefront Park & Downtown

                                                Special Event

 

Ms. Chris, David Lane, David Combone were present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS: 

1.         Temporary electrical wiring shall comply with the National Electrical Code (NEC) 2002 Articles 525 and 527. Note: Temporary wiring shall be ground-fault protected. Multi-conductor cord shall originate in an approved power outlet or panelboard and be of the type identified in Table 400-4 for hard usage or extra hard usage. Receptacles shall be the grounding type. Lamps shall be protected from accidental contact or breakage. Electrical cords shall be protected from damage and shall be placed so as to prevent trip hazards.  When receptacles are installed on flexible cords/cables and exposed to weather or in wet locations, they shall be in a weatherproof enclosure.

2.         If tents over 300 sq. ft. are used they shall comply with the Florida Building Code (FBC) 2001Section 3103.1 and Section 1019.5. Certification of flame resistance shall be filed with the building department prior to a permit being issued.

3.         Tent exits, aisles, seating, etc. shall conform to assembly occupancy. All exits shall be kept free of obstructions while tent is occupied by the public.    

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

  1. We do not recommend the parade route along Massachusetts Avenue, particularly the segment between 4th Street and Lakeshore.  The reason is due to the settlement of the roadway which is unlevel and unsafe for pedestrian use. 

 

Ms. Chris noted that she would like to have the city cold patch or mark Massachusetts Avenue.  Kentucky is narrow, and will have a negative impact on merchants in the area. 

Mr. Luthie indicated that they will not be able to have this done by the Veterans Day Parade, they will try to have it finished for the Holiday Parade in December.

Ms. Chris indicated they would like to advise the participants with cones on the worst areas

Mr. Luthie asked if they would consider going east instead of west?

Ms. Chris noted that this would defeat the purpose, they are trying to make it an entire city parade so that afterwards they could walk by the BBQ, going east defeats purpose and the advertising is already done.

Mr. Luthie indicated that the participants would need to walk safely and asked if they had a lot of walking?

Ms. Chris noted that they will have marching bands, floats even a school bus and they would have a lot of vehicles.  She noted that Kentucky would not work for them, she also indicated that the police would be at the very end of the parade.

Mr. Luthie stated that the asphalt company would be coming in to do work but won’t be ready by the parade date.

Ms. Chris indicated there are two significant areas between 4th and 5th and the other near Cypress that seem to be the scariest for marchers, she noted they could mark and have people there to notify them of a rocky spot

Mr. Luthie indicated he was not sure about liability because the city has condoned the use and they are choosing to still use it.

Ms. Chris wants to know if this falls under the insurance we provided to the city? Or could we look beyond Kentucky

Mr. Luthie wants to know if the parade has to go to Lakeshore?

Ms. Chris indicated that the HS band will be competing on Lakeshore and NewYork.

Mr. Luthie noted that maybe they could choose an alternative such as 4th street, barricades could be placed on 4th and New York.  They may want to use some trailers to simulate the floats to see if they could confirm that 4th would work. 

Ms. Chris indicated that the largest float is the Silver Spurs which is 20 feet.

Ms. Chris and Mr. Luthie discussed new advertising and they will get together to work on details.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         Fire rescue department requests an area be designated as a first aid station located in the shade. The first- aid station will be attended by the fire rescue department. The First-aid station will require electric located on the north side of the sidewalk.

2.         All fire protection equipment; building exits and other safety features shall remain accessible.

3.         The temporary blocking of the intersections will effect the tactical operations of the fire rescue department by causing a delay in response.  In view of the positive community-wide effects expected from this event and the fire rescue department’s close proximity to the area, the fire rescue department will temporarily augment its standard response to negate the obstacles presented by this special event.

4.         Blocking of intersections shall be done using removable barricades and manned when possible.

5.         A lane shall remain open to allow emergency vehicles access if needed. (Movable barricades are acceptable.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.                   DOT Approved Barricades at all intersecting streets of parade route.

Out of park by 3 pm

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.                               Check roadway for vehicles or other obstructions prior to parade.

INFORMATION:

3.                   Police Department shall assist with leading and ending the parade with Motorcycle Unit and Bicycle Patrol.

4.                   Will provide one officer on bicycle until event ends.

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   All residents along the parade route must be notified in writing of the proposed street closures no later than November 4, 2004.  This can be done by mail or door to door delivery of the written information.

We will hand notice to residence

2.                   The parade route shows closer of 10th Street and Lakeshore Blvd.  As County rights-of-way, Please be advised that this will require approval of the Osceola County Engineering Department.

INFORMATION:

5.                   As a DRC approved Special Event, the applicant is authorized to utilize off-site signage beginning November 4, 2004 for the purpose of advertising or directing traffic to the event.  All signs must be placed so as to prevent visual obstruction by both vehicular and pedestrian traffic, must be free standing, and must be removed no later than November 11, 2004.

 

PARKS & RECREATION

CONDITIONS:

1.                   The dumpster that you need you will have to get with Ernie with Refuse.

2.                   I need a representative at the Lakefront Friday 11/12/04 by 7:30am to make sure where our set up is correct.  We will set up & deliver everything Friday night except for the stage.

3.                   No problem with trash cans, chairs, bleacher & stage.  You need to make up a sign to saying what day you want the ramp closed and we will put it on our barricade.

4.                   If we can’t drop off the stage Friday night then we will deliver it on Saturday morning.  I will let you know.

5.                   We will not be able to provide the hand held radios.

6.                   The restroom facilities are under Building / Maintenance Department.

7.                   The Parks Division no longer installs banners; you will have to get with OUC.

8.                   We do not put out barricades to block off roads.

9.                   Mowing will be done the week prior to event.

10.               We will pick up everything on the Monday following the event. 11/15/04.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

11.               Get with someone in City Hall to put on the scroll that the boat ramp will be closed.  Just a suggestion.

12.               You will have more space for parking at Minnesota from 9th to 10th then you will across from the OUC building.

INFORMATION:

13.               The City will be closed on Thursday 11/11/04.

 

RISK MANAGEMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         Certificate needs to show Certificate Holder as City of Saint Cloud, 1300 9th St, Saint Cloud, FL, not City attn Christine Faulkowski, 3852 Blackberry Circle.  If there are not VVA vehicles, nor paid workers, the certificate provided meets city requirements;  if there will be VVA vehicles or paid workers, a revised certificate is needed.

There are no VVA vechicles…insurance is correct.  They are not paid workers. 

2.         Department to provide vendor/event holder with City of Saint Cloud Certificate Kit via email, fax or U.S. Mail.

Vendor must provide acceptable Certificates of Insurance via ACORD form or sign City Waiver documents, no later than 10 days prior to the event.  If the vendor does not carry Florida Worker’s Compensation insurance, an Exemption certificate must be attached  to submitted insurance certificates.

Requests for waivers or reductions of City requirements should be addressed to the Department Director who will make those determinations.

Certificates should be mailed or faxed to the Department contact.

           

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval with conditions. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.         Case # 04-112.01 – Bracy Buildings PUD

                                                W of Hickory Tree – 700 Ft. S of U.S. 192

                                                Rezoning to PUD

 

Jim Wells, Brian Bracy, Pete Bracy were present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         No Comments.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         The extension of 17th Street through the property to Old Hickory Tree Road will need to be considered.  If the roadway is designed to facilitate through traffic, we will recommend impact fee credits for the improvements installed by the developer. 

 

Mr. Wells noted that their understanding of the issue on 17th had gone away, has it or is it an issue?

Mr. Luthie indicated that the City perceived that there is a need to make a frontage road for 192, our city council supporting a direct way.

Mr. Wells indicated that because the city failed to act on the offer, doesn’t that answer the question? 

Mr. Luthie indicated that we want someone to say No, we don’t want the road. 

Mr. Nearing, Mr. Wells and Mr. Bracy discussed Impact Fee Credits.

Mr. Wells indicated that they would do a set of plans with the road indicating what the impact fees would generate to see if it will be an offset.

Mr. Bracy and Mr. Wells discussed plans

Mr. Nearing noted that he would like to investigate a road to provide for entire industrial area keeping 192 clear.

Mr. Luthie reminded them that Old Hickory Tree road is county, and approval will have to come from them to allow a driveway onto Hickory Tree.

Mr. Wells and Mr. Nearing discussed the park in that area. 

Mr. Luthie noted that a park is required but it can be relocated as long as it stays in the area.

 

2.         The storm water pond is not accurately labeled.  Please revise.

3.         Crawford Avenue and Old Hickory Tree Road are under jurisdiction of Osceola County.  Any proposed improvements within the rights of way will need permits from Osceola County

4.         Please identify the storm water discharge location for the project.

5.         It appears the US 192 / 441 roadway will serve the project and out parcels north of this project.  Be advised that the Florida Dept. of Transportation must review and approve any proposed improvements.

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         Water and sewer are available with extensions.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         After initial review of the limited information inherent with a preliminary plan, nothing appears as if it would cause an adverse affect on fire department operations.  Since items addressing fire protection generally are not shown on preliminary plans, the fire rescue department will further review the project at the time of site plan submittal.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

CONDITIONS:

1.         If the electric is underground, the owner will install all the primary conduit and the concrete transformer pad.  The secondary conduit, wire, and terminations is the responsibility of the owner.  If overhead transformers are used OUC will make the terminations at the pole if service is underground or at the mast if overhead.  Please have the conduit installed and inspected by OUC three weeks before you need pre-power.

2.         A utility easement will be required once the location of the transformer and primary run is determined.

3.         There may be costs for temp. power to this site.  There may be costs to relocate any existing power poles if a conflict happens.

4.         There may be costs to provide electric service to this project, please contact Development Services.

5.         OUC can provide parking lot lights for this project please contact Development Services.

6.         Please send all site and electric information to OUC Development Services.

            500 South Orange Avenue          (407) 236-9652 – Fax (407) 236-9628

            P.O. Box 3193                           email: developmentservices@ouc.com

            Orlando, FL  32802

7.         Once all information is obtained by Development Services, an Engineer will be assigned to the project.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         None

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Approved

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.         The PUD as proposed grants the developer too much without any concessions made in return. Unless revised the Planning and Zoning would recommend a straight zoning category.

 

Mr. Wells indicated that developer’s plans are to mix the commercial and industrial they do not plan to create another metal village, we believe it offsets, our concessions are a high standard of building and architecture

Mr. Bracy noted that anything facing Hickory Tree will be glass fronts and stucco,

Mr. Groenendaal wanted to know if this would be retail.

Mr. Bracy indicated that anything facing Hickory Tree would be.

Mr. Bracy and Mr. Groenendaal discussed buildings.

Mr. Bracy anything you can see from 192 and Hickory Tree will look nice with stucco, we will not do a metal building with orange doors.

Mr. Wells wanted to know if they can make a stipulation, anything facing roadway will adopt architecture standards (addressed Mr. Groenendaal)

Mr. Nearing, Mr. Wells and Mr. Groenendaal discussed the appearance of the buildings from the road.

Discussion of the buildings

Discussion of other businesses coming into the area.

 

2.         The development of this property with retail commercial uses is poor planning practice. This area of the City is primed for Industrial, professional office and warehouse use. Allowing commercial retail will result in a variety of problems for the City over the long term.

3.         The division of the DIRT V piece will require a subdivision process, perhaps this PUD should be expanded to include the entire parcel and some to the commercial elements would be used along US Hwy 192. If not then this entire application is premature. In addition the LDC requires 20 acres for PUD’s and this piece alone will require a waiver to that requirement.

4.         The Preliminary Master Plan seems off is there really 4.5+ acres of open space.

5.         The PUD should contain the parking regulation for the mix of uses. Under current retail/office rates the site is insufficient.

6.         Missing a Certificate of Title, original letter of authorization.

 

Mr. Groenendaal noted that he didn’t have the original letter of authorization.

Discussed letter of authorization

Mr. Nearing indicated that we need the original, we need a hard copy.

 

Discussed future plans

 

Mr. Nearing and Mr. Wells discussed soil qualities.

Mr. Bracy noted that there was an old water hole but that was not an issue.

 

INFORMATION:

7.                   Revised plans must be submitted within sixty (60) days of this review.  Revised plans submitted after the allotted time frame will require a new application including payment of additional fees.

8.                   All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval with conditions.  The applicant will submit revised plans for sign-off within 60 days addressing the conditions discussed.

4.         Case # 03-16.12 – Indian Lakes

                                                E. of Canoe Creek Road/W of Michigan Avenue

                                                Preliminary Subdivision Amendment (Minor)

 

 

John Townsend was present to represent the applicant.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         No Comments.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.

 

CONCURRENCY MANAGEMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.                   A Certificate of Capacity will not be required since the original certificate of capacity was for 379 homes,

2.                   A refund was given for the sewer capacity reservation fee of the 26 homes that were not included in the plans; therefore, creating the new residential lot in Phase 5 will require a sewer reservation fee of $235.80. 

 

Mr. Townsend indicated they have already provided check and that they are currently trying to get stamped approved plans with Tot Lot on it. 

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

CONDITIONS:

1.         The owner shall install all electric conduit, primary manholes or pullboxes, concrete switchgear pads, concrete transformer pads, secondary pullboxes required to install electric within the project. Please have the conduit installed and inspected by OUC three weeks before you need pre-power.

2.         A 10’ foot wide utility easement will be required on all property lines abutting a right of way.  Other easements may be required.

3.         OUC can provide parking lot lights for this project please contact Development Services.

4.         Please send all site and electric information to OUC Development Services.

            500 South Orange Avenue          (407) 236-9652 – Fax (407) 236-9628

            P.O. Box 3193                           email: developmentservices@ouc.com

            Orlando, FL  32802

5.         Once all information is obtained by Development Services, an Engineer will be assigned to the project.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         None

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Approved

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   PSP revision of the tot lot into an additional residential lot will require the construction plans to be revised also.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Recommendation of approval

INFORMATION:

3.         Revised plans must be submitted within sixty (60) days of this review.  Revised plans submitted after the allotted time frame will require a new application including payment of additional fees.

4.         All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval with conditions.  The applicant will submit revised plans for sign-off within 60 days addressing the conditions discussed.

 

 

ADJOURNMENT:

Meeting adjourned at 3:05