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CITY OF ST. CLOUD

DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES

 

DATE OF MEETING:      March 24, 2005

 

LOCATION:                   1300 9th Street - 1st Floor – DRC Conference Room; St. Cloud

 

CALL TO ORDER:         2:00 P.M.

 

CHAIRMAN:                  Veronica Witol, Planner

 

SECRETARY:               Marty Hobbs, Development Officer

 

MEMBERS PRESENT:

Mark Luthie                   Lt. Bret Dunn                 Angelo Perri                  Dave Ennis                   

John Groenendaal          Ron Trowell                   Veronica Witol               Sue Boblett

 

OLD BUSINESS:

 

1.         Case # 05-24.01 – Jowers Townhomes

                                                Michigan Avenue

                                                PUD Amendment

 

Mr. Craig Rouhier was present to represent the application.  Mr. Rouhier gave a brief history of the project to date.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         No comments.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         We will need a revised traffic projection based on the land use change and the ITE latest addition.  Roadway capacity analysis will be under Osceola County jurisdiction.          

 

Mr. Rouhier noted that he had an updated study that had been done previously.  He provided copies of the study and the issue was discussed with Mr. Luthie.  He further noted that it was going to require a reduction in the commercial to 75,000.

 

Mr. Luthie noted that the applicant could need to obtain something from Osceola County regarding the permitting.

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

2.         Further conditions and recommendations will be addressed during the construction process.

3.         With limited information the Fire Rescue department will further review the project at the time of site plan submittal.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         None    

 

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RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         Approved

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.         Provide a letter from the School Board that they will waive their rights to utilize the property.

 

Mr. Rouhier explained that the School Board would not allow a charter school at this time.  He explained that he was looking at either a pre-K or community/satellite school for the site.  He asked that the school site be tabled until a final determination could be made and address only the townhome site.

 

2.         Staff will not be supporting the elimination of the school site for housing. The staff will support the conversion of the land to recreational park for the citizens of Southern Pines.

3.         Of the 9.99 ac for townhomes how much is wetland and how much is within the 100 year flood plain.

4.         Will this townhome project cause the 799 home thresholds to be exceeded.

 

Mr. Rouhier noted that it would be two different animals entirely and that realistically, he wouldn’t get the 799 anyway.

 

Mr. Groenendaal explained that staff was concerned over the possibility of getting into a DRI situation.

 

Mr. Rouhier noted that he had some samples of what the townhomes were going to look like and he provided Mr. Groenendaal with a copy.

 

INFORMATION:

1.                   Revised plans must be submitted within sixty (60) days of this review.  Revised plans submitted after the allotted time frame will require a new application including payment of additional fees.

2.                   All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

3.         Applicant shall confer with Osceola County regarding access, right of way permits and concurrency prior to Final Site Plan approval for any development application that impacts a County Road.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         A South Florida Water Management District permit is required for this project.

 

Mr. Rouhier asked when the project would go before the Planning Board.

 

Mr. Groenendaal explained that it would most likely go to them at the second meeting in April (4/19/05).

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval with the conditions as stated.  The case will be forwarded to the Planning Board and City Council for review and approval.

 

 

 

NEW BUSINESS:

 

1.         Approval of Consent Agenda of March 24, 2005

 

The consent agenda of March 24, 2005 was approved as submitted.

 

 

 

2.         Case #05-1.11 – Friday Night Live (April Event)

                                                Downtown St. Cloud

                                                Special Event

 

Ms. Tracy Bailey was present to represent the application.

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BUILDING DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         Temporary electrical wiring shall comply with the National Electrical Code (NEC) 2002

             Articles 525 and 527. Note: Temporary wiring shall be ground-fault protected. Multi-conductor

             cord shall originate in an approved power outlet or panelboard and be of the type identified

             in Table 400-4 for hard usage or extra hard usage. Receptacles shall be the grounding type.

             Lamps shall be protected from accidental contact or breakage. Electrical cords shall be

             protected from damage and shall be placed so as to prevent trip hazards.

             When receptacles are installed on flexible cords/cables and exposed to weather or in wet

             locations, they shall be in a weatherproof enclosure.

2.         If tents over 300 sq. ft. are used they shall comply with the Florida Building Code (FBC)

2001Section 3103.1 and Section 1019.5. Certification of flame resistance shall be filed with the

building department prior to a permit being issued.

3.         Tent exits, aisles, seating, etc. shall conform to assembly occupancy. All exits shall be kept free of

             obstructions while tent is occupied by the public.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.    

 

LINES DIVISION

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         All fire protection equipment; building exits and other safety features shall remain accessible.

2.         A lane shall remain open to allow emergency vehicles access if needed. (Movable barricades are acceptable.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         None

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Approved

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.         All food vendors must be properly licensed and inspected.

2          All business owners and/or residents affected by the street closure(s) must be notified, in writing, a minimum of ten (10) days prior to the event date.

3.         In the event that unforeseen problems arise, the DRC may at any time request reconsideration of this approval.

INFORMATION:

4.         As a DRC approved special Event, the applicant is authorized to utilize off-site signage to advertise and/or direct traffic for the event.  Please be advised that all signage must be placed so as to prevent visual obstruction to both pedestrian and vehicular traffic, must be free standing and may be utilized beginning one week prior to the event.  All signage must be removed the day following the final day of the event.

5.         The applicant or any Committee member may request a post review of the event(s).  Please contact Marty Hobbs at (407) 957-7253 or via email to mhobbs@stcloud.org to schedule the review.

 

PARKS & RECREATION

CONDITIONS:

1.                   We will set up stage by 3:30pm.  Area must be blocked off by 3:00pm

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2.                   Before you load up the tables & chairs, you will need to come to the Civic Center to sign out the (20) tables & (75) chairs with the front office before 5:00pm.

3.                   You will need to bring the tables & chairs back to the Civic Center by noon on Monday March 14th 2005.  Please make sure the chairs & tables are clean when you bring them back.

4.                   Please make sure that my staff has stage hooked up before you take barricades away.

 

RISK MANAGEMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         Must provide acceptable Certificate of Insurance based on City “Vendor Handout” to be provided by the hosting department.  Certificate shall be by ACORD form or signed Department Director waiver documents, and provided to the hosting Department contact no later than 10 days prior to the event.  Department contact will confirm adequate/acceptable coverage or address with vendor, and forward a copy of the final Director/Department approved certificate to Risk Management.

 

FINDING:

The DRC approved the special event with the conditions as stated.  The Police Department has requested that the case continue to come before the Committee each month for the remainder of 2005.

 

 

 

3.         Case #5-34.01 – Murray, Mark

                                                1231-1325 17th Street

                                                Annexation/LUA/Zoning

 

This is a City initiated action on an encumbrance filed for connection to City services.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         The building department does not have comments applicable to this case.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.    

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comments.

INFORMATION:

2.         Wastewater will discharge to the Lakeshore WWTP.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Upon annexation, this site will receive fire protection from the St. Cloud Fire Rescue Department.  In order for the site to receive the ISO rating inherent with the rest of the City, a hydrant must be located within 1000 feet of any existing structures.  Furthermore, any future development will require standards set forth according to the LDC 7.9.3

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Recommends approval.

 

 

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PLANNING

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         Recommend approval of annexation, Medium Density Residential Land Use and R-2 zoning

INFORMATION:

2.         If no departments have concerns, item shall appear on the 4/19/05 Planning Board agenda and the 5/12/05 and 5/26/05 City Council agendas.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

INFORMATION:

1.         The District has no comment regarding this case.

FINDING:

Approved.

 

 

 

 

4.         Case #5-35.01 – Canoe Creek Lakes H.O.A.

                                                Settlers Trail & Red Bird; Settlers Trail & Needle Palm Court

                                                Stop Sign Request (X2)

 

Mr. Luthie noted that he had spoken with the applicant and he was unable to attend this meeting.

 

Lt. Dunn advised the Committee that the Police Department traffic trailer had been repaired and could now be used.

 

Mr. Luthie recommended continuance of the case until the necessary data could be collected.  He noted that he would advise Ms. Hobbs when that data was ready and the case could be placed back on the agenda.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         The building department does not have comments applicable to this case.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         A stop sign request will need to follow procedures.  The applicant will need to pay for the fees associated with Planning Board agenda request.  Upon payment of the applicable fee a stop sign warrant study will be submitted to the Planning Board for recommendations.

2.         We have lowered the speed limit to 25 mph.                    

3.         We will consult with the SCPD on the appropriate signage to limit “thru trucks”.                 

4.         We will consult with the SCPD on the need and which side of the street to post as “No Parking”.

 

LINES DIVISION

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         No comments.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.                   Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

2.                   The Fire Rescue Department agrees parking in some areas can cause problems.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comments.

 

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PLANNING

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.                   Currently, the City’s traffic trailer, which is used to collect traffic counts and speeds is inoperable.  Since this is the primary way in which the City obtains counts for studies such as this, we must place this review on hold pending the return of a functional trailer and the completion of counts.  One alternative would be for the Canoe Creek Lakes Homeowners’ Association (HOA) to hire a traffic engineering firm to obtain counts, or convince the Osceola County Engineering Department to perform the warrant study for them.  The City would use the outcome of this study as the basis of its recommendation to the Planning Board.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The District has no comment regarding this case.

 

FINDING:

The DRC continued the case until data could be provided through use of the City’s traffic trailer.  Mark Luthie will contact the Planning Department when that data becomes available.

 

 

 

 

 

5.         Case #3-19.04 – Neptune Road Townhomes

Neptune Road

Final Plat

 

Mr. Silvio Righetti was present to represent the application. He noted that he had spoken with his attorney and would have the answers staff needs by tomorrow.  He noted that he was in agreement with all conditions from staff and would resubmit a corrected plat.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         The building department does not have comments applicable to this case.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         Please call out on the plat the maintenance of the Common Area, Tract A, and Tract D to the HOA.

2.         Please call out on the plat the dedication of the utility easement to the Public.       

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comments.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         The Final Plat meets the requirements of The OUC Electric Engineering Division.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Recommend approval

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

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1.                   Need the surveyor fee of 250.00

2.                   The legal on the boundary survey and plat are not identical.

3.                   Dedicate the tot lot to the HOA.

4.                   This plat will set property lines if structure walls do not fall on those lines a replat may be required.

5.                   The lots intrude into the setback lines required and presented in the construction plan. This can be addressed by reducing the lots to the setback line or add a note to the plat that lots 1-6 and 14-21 have a 35 feet. The former option is preferred.

6.                   The area of historic interest shown on the construction plans will treated how?

7.                    Is this correct Tract B which is the FDOT ditch will be maintained by the HOA?

INFORMATION:

1.                   Revised plans must be submitted within sixty (60) days of this review.  Revised plans submitted after the allotted time frame will require a new application including payment of additional fees.

2.                   All submitted plans must be folded at the time of submittal.  Rolled plans will not be accepted.

3.         Follow the plat checklist after receiving final plat approval

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         The District recommends approval of this case.

 

OSCEOLA COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY (911 ADDRESSING)

CONDITIONS:

1.         Submit final plat for review and approval of street names.

 

There was no further discussion of this case.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval with the conditions as stated.

 

 

 

 

 

6.         Case #4-40.03 – Partin West

                                                W of Florida Turnpike; E of C-31 Canal

                                                LUA/Zoning

 

There was no one present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         The building department does not have comments applicable to this case.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.    

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.         Water, sewer and reclaimed water are available with extensions.

INFORMATION:

2.         Wastewater will discharge to the Southside WWTP.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

2.         The Fire Rescue Department needs information on access points to this property.

 

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OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Recommend approval

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Recommend the MDR land use capped at 6 units per acre.

2.                   Recommend the AG zone.

INFORMATION:

3.         Applicant shall confer with Osceola County regarding access, right of way permits and concurrency prior to Final Subdivision Plan approval for any development application that impacts a County Road.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The District has no comment regarding this case.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval.  The case will be forwarded to the Planning Board and City Council for Public Hearing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

7.         Case #5-37.01 – Hickory Tree Estates

                                                N of St. Cloud Sprayfields; W of Old Hickory Tree Road

                                                Annex/LUA/Zoning

 

Mr. John Kidd was present to represent the application.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         The building department does not have comments applicable to this case.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         Please explain or describe the primary ingress/egress to the parcel.         

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.         Water, sewer and reclaimed water are available with extensions.

INFORMATION:

2.         Wastewater discharge will go to the Southside WWTP.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         Prior to build out of this project the City of St. Cloud should consider staffing a Fire Station in the general  area.

INFORMATION:

1.         Upon annexation, this site will receive fire protection from the St. Cloud Fire Rescue Department.  In order for the site to receive the ISO rating inherent with the rest of the City, a hydrant must be located

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within 1000 feet of any existing structures.  Furthermore, any future development will require standards set forth according to the LDC 7.9.3

2.         Further conditions and recommendations will be addressed during the construction process.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment.

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comments

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Recommend approval

 

PLANNING

CONDITIONS:

1.                   Please provide an electronic copy of the legal.

2.                   Staff will support MDR land use with a cap of 5 units per acre.

 

Mr. Kidd noted that he was in agreement with the recommended cap.

 

3.                   Staff will support a PUD zoning over the R-2 zone

 

Mr. Kidd asked for an explanation of the comment.

 

Mr. Groenendaal explained the PUD zoning and its benefits.

 

Mr. Kidd asked when the switch could be made.

 

Mr. Groenendaal explained that the PUD could be put on the map and the details could be worked out at the time of preliminary review.

 

The issue of PUD zoning was discussed.

 

Ms. Witol noted that she had been advised by Mr. Nearing that the PUD would have to be worked out within one year of the approval.

 

Mr. Kidd explained that he would need to discuss the issue with the owner and possibly set up a meeting with him and staff.

 

Ms. Hobbs explained that there would have to be a definite determination made before the advertisements for public hearing could be done.

 

Mr. Kidd noted that he would contact Mr. Groenendaal to set up a meeting next week.

 

4.                   It these two changes are acceptable please notify the City in writing

INFORMATION:

1.         Applicant shall confer with Osceola County regarding access, right of way permits and concurrency prior to Final Subdivision Plan approval for any development application that impacts a County Road.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The District has no comment regarding this case.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval of an R-2 zoning with staff to discuss the possibility of changing that recommending to approval of a PUD.

 

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8.         Case #5-36.01 – Gramercy Farms

                                                Old Hickory Tree Road

Annexation

 

Mr. Kevin Rainey, Mr. Johnathan Baltuck and Ms. Lori English were present to represent the application.

 

Mr. Rainey noted that he had reviewed the comments and was in agreement.  He also noted that he would contact Osceola County to discuss the access issues.

 

The proposed location for a fire station was briefly discussed.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         The building department does not have comments applicable to this case.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         The application indicates that both Old Hickory Tree Rd. and Packard Ave. will be utilized for access to the site.  Both proposed access points are under Osceola County jurisdiction.    

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.         Water, sewer and reclaimed water are available with extensions.

INFORMATION:

2.         Wastewater discharge will go to the Southside WWTP.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         Prior to build out of this project the City of St. Cloud should consider staffing a Fire Station in the general  area.

INFORMATION:

1.         Further conditions and recommendations will be addressed during the construction process.

2.         Upon annexation, this site will receive fire protection from the St. Cloud Fire Rescue Department.  In order for the site to receive the ISO rating inherent with the rest of the City, a hydrant must be located within 1000 feet of any existing structures.  Furthermore, any future development will require standards set forth according to the LDC 7.9.3

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comments

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Recommend approval

 

PLANNING

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.                   Recommend approval of annexation.

INFORMATION:

3.                   This item shall appear on the 4/19/05 Planning Board agenda and the 5/12/05 and 5/26/05 City Council agendas.

2.         Applicant shall confer with Osceola County regarding access, right of way permits and concurrency prior to Final Site Plan approval for any development application that impacts a County Road.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The District has no comment regarding this case.

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FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval.  The case will be forwarded to the Planning Board & City Council for public hearings.

 

 

 

 

9.         Case #5-36.02 – Gramercy Farms

Old Hickory Tree Road

Land Use Amendment/Zoning

 

Mr. Kevin Rainey was present to represent the application.  He noted that he had reviewed staff’s comments and had no objections.  He noted that he was in agreement with the Medium Density Residential but he was not sure he wanted to have the five dwelling units per acre cap.  He explained that there would be a total of 1,200 units in the subdivision.

 

Ms. English gave a brief presentation of the artistic renderings for the project.

 

Mr. Baltuck explained that the project would be donating twenty-five acres for use as a regional park.  He noted that he had been working with Parks & Recreation and was now beginning talks with the Tourist Development Council and School Board regarding their possible participation in a pool/regional facility.

 

BUILDING DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         The building department does not have comments applicable to this case.

 

PUBLIC WORKS

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comment.    

 

LINES DIVISION

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comments.

 

FIRE DEPARTMENT

INFORMATION:

1.         Approval of this case will not cause an adverse affect on fire rescue department operations.

2.         Further conditions and recommendations will be addressed during the construction process.

3.         With limited information the Fire Rescue department will further review the project at the time of site plan submittal.

 

OUC (ELECTRIC UTILITY)

INFORMATION:

1.         No comment

 

POLICE DEPARTMENT

CONDITIONS:

1.         No comments

RECOMMENDATIONS:

2.         Recommend approval

 

PLANNING

RECOMMENDATIONS:

1.         Recommend approval of Medium Density Residential with a maximum density cap of 5 units per acre.

INFORMATION:

2.         This item shall appear on the 4/19/05 Planning Board agenda and the 5/12/05 and 5/26/05 City Council agendas.

 

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3.         Applicant shall confer with Osceola County regarding access, right of way permits and concurrency prior to Final Site Plan approval for any development application that impacts a County Road.

 

SOUTH FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT

CONDITIONS:

1.         The District has no comment regarding this case.

 

FINDING:

The DRC recommended approval.  This case will be forwarded to the Planning Board and City Council for public hearings.

 

AJDOURNMENT:           The meeting was adjourned at 2:45 p.m.