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DATE OF MEETING:                  February 22, 2007


LOCATION:                               1300 9th Street - 1st Floor – DRC Conference Room; St. Cloud


CALL TO ORDER:                     2:00 P.M.


CHAIRMAN (Acting):                  Ted Kozak, Planner, Planning and Zoning


SECRETARY (Acting):               Pam Murray, Planning and Zoning Technician



Ken Peck                      Ron Trowell                   Kevin Felblinger             Bob Friend

Ted Kozak                     Jonathan Kutche            David Ennis                   Cindy Spanglo

John Groenendaal          Veronica Miller               Tommy Howe


1.                   Case #07-1.11 – National Day of Prayer

Veteran’s Park

Special Event


Ms. Bertha Chase, Coordinator for National Day of Prayer, was present to represent the application.


No one was present to represent staff.


Ms. Chase was grateful for fees waived by Mr. Hurt. She is concerned about how effective the advertising will be with no banner. She has only small yard signs, but would like a larger sign.


Mr. Howe inquired whether they still had the old banner?


Ms. Chase will find out, and would like to use it. Also, she would like to put it up as soon as possible (not just a week in advance). She plans to take the banner down the day after.


Mr. Kozak noted that if done in the past, it would probably be okay.


Mr. Howe concurred.


Ms. Spanglo followed up about the insurance.


Ms. Chase mentioned that they are working with Cornerstone church for being added onto their insurance policy.


Ms. Spanglo noted contact would be made to make sure it’s adequate.


Ms. Chase inquired about the electricity and that they used to be given a key to the restrooms?


Mr. Howe noted that the electrical box as well as the chairs are still available.


Ms. Chase wondered about tables.


Mr. Howe followed up with an inquiry of how the chairs will be put out. His department will erect the tents, but someone else needs to set-up the tables.


Ms. Chase in interested in adding smaller tents for prayer small groups.


FINDING:  DRC recommended approval with conditions.

2.                   Case #04-93.05 – Deer Creek West (Ted Kozak, Planner)

West of Canoe Creek Road and east of the Turnpike

Final Plat, 28.16 acres, 91 lots and 5 Tracts


Ms. Pat McCurdy and Mr. Jeremy Kibler were present to represent the application.


Mr. Kibler agrees with conditions, but would like to add—prior to the 6-month expiration, they would like to extend another 6 months.


Mr. Kozak noted that that would be okay.


Mr. Kibler and Ms. McCurdy inquired about the dedication in the plans.


Mr. Kozak would prefer notes moved to front page, and change “dedicated“ to “reserved.” It’s more location than symantics, but to please put notes on front page.


Ms. McCurdy inquired about Item #3, area to east, that she was not aware that it has not been recorded. She could not find phase 2 on record.


Mr. Kozak noted that the updated plans have changed the road to curved. Unless that is reflected in the revised plat, he prefers to have the drawing of the road to be as it was in previous plans.




Mr. Kibler was concerned with Item #4, the remaining rows. Also, he wants ordinance recorded at the same time as the plat.


Mr. Kozak was concerned about keeping the old abandoned drawn lines along with the newly implemented ones.


Ms. McCurdy noted that they didn’t intend to show the old lines.


Mr. Kibler noted that with Item #6, certificate of titles, they didn’t intent to submit it for the record.



Ted suggested that Item #6 be for “information only.”


FINDING:  DRC recommended approval with conditions.


3.                   Case #07-42.01 – Rummel Downs (Ted Kozak, Planner)

Rummel Road west of Narcoossee Road

Final Plat, 26.10 acres, 7 lots


Mr. William Hart, of Franklin, Hart and Reid, was present to represent the application.


Ms. Miller submitted additional comments not previously added.


Mr. Hart is not in agreement with all conditions.


Ms. Miller noted that the conditions were required.


Mr. Groenendaal inquired about a Final Master Plan.


Mr. Hart was concerned about the reason.


Mr. Groenendaal and Mr. Kozak wanted clarification on whether this project were part of the Turtle Creek project.


Mr. Hart noted—although not entirely sure—that this project was splitting out from the Turtle Creek project and its PUD designation.


Ms. Miller suggested that Mr. Nearing, Director of Planning, be involved in the decision of the splitting out, since it is not shown on previous plans.


Mr. Hart noted that he will resolve these concerns after this meeting, and continued with the next condition, condition #2 under Public Works: the sidewalk.


Mr. Felblinger noted that it is not something that will keep the project from moving forward.


Mr. Hart presented a copy of recorded easement to talk about Comment #5. The applicant is okay with dedicating a portion of the parcel to city.


Ms. Miller inquired about how lot 7 is showing the dedication?




Ms. Miller noted that the site is incorrect.


Mr. Hart noted that the correct description was in a discussion he had with staff, if not on plans, but is willing to rededicate, if necessary.


Ms. Miller noted that she would like to discuss the dedicated land further after this meeting.


Mr. Kozak inquired about the wording.


Mr. Hart noted that there be will no rewording, and is preparing a warranty deed with a clean title.


Ms. Miller was concerned with cross-access, i.e., 30’ at the County-owned retention pond, and inquired about which are not finalized.




Mr. Hart noted that that is what the County needs to sign, but it is not yet prepared, and he has yet to find out who to submit it to, so the timeline is not clear. As for the Comment #2 for Planning, move to front page, he is not sure what is required.


Mr. Kozak noted that that comment was for making sure the notes are not scattered throughout the plans, but are in one convenient location. So, as in previous applicant, he noted that it should be moved to “information only.”


Mr. Hart noted that he usually waits for the title to be record at the Final Plat stage. Also, It is not a joinder. Lastly, on Comment #7 for IT, preparing a payment, Mr. Hart inquired what it was for.


Mr. Peck noted that it is the only way to assess the impact fees. If construction plans take effect, then the fees will be collected at that time.


Mr. Groenendaal concurred adding that it best time for implementation.


Ms. Miller wanted confirmation of the actual acreage of both easements after meeting.


Mr. Hart agreed.


Mr. Hart and staff discussed PSPs, Construction Plans, Master Plans, etc.


FINDING:  DRC recommended approval with conditions.


4.                   Case #07-43.01 – Canoe Creek Woods (Jonathan Kutche, Planner)

Canoe Creek Woods Subdivision

Abandonment of Easements


The City of St. Cloud staff was present to represent the application.


Mr. Groenendaal noted that the parcel is not being abandoned, but rather is just taking care of an obstruction.


FINDING:  DRC recommended approval.


Meeting Adjourned:  3:07 pm



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